@inbetween- Watchtower 7/15 2007 page 20 par.20 "Any who fear that they have sinned against the holy spirit might ask themselves: 'Have I blasphemed against the holy spirit?..Am I an apostate who has rejected spiritual light?'. Very likely, such individuals will realize that they have not blasphemed against God's holy spirit, nor have they become apostates."
The Quiet One
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Some JWs are exhibiting signs of violence because of WT hate speech. Read the threat to me and others posted at Topix yesterday
by AndersonsInfo inyesterday, i opened a topix account so i could post the information about watch tower representatives attending the political ocse meeting in poland for two weeks and the proof that they are an ngo.
one of the posters responded with these words: .
"barbs-info," eh?
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What next? UK Charity Commission?
by Mickey mouse inshould we strike whilst the iron's hot (is that a very english thing to say?
) and bombard the charity commission with copies of the independent?.
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"The Charity Commission needs toknow where there is a serious risk of significant harm to or abuse of a charity, its assets, beneficiaries or reputation. The issues we consider serious are: significant financial loss to the charity; serious harm to beneficiaries and, in particular, vulnerable beneficiaries; threats to national security, particularly terrorism; criminality within or involving acharity; sham charities set up for an illegal or improper purpose; charities deliberately being used for significant private advantage; where a charity's independence is seriously called into question; serious non-compliance in a charity that damages or has the potential to damage its reputation and/or the reputation of charities generally;and serious non-compliance in a charity which, left unchecked, could damage public trust and confidence in the Charity Commission as an effective regulator." http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/About_us/Complaining/issues_we_want_to_know_about.aspx
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What next? UK Charity Commission?
by Mickey mouse inshould we strike whilst the iron's hot (is that a very english thing to say?
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"Mentally diseased" article to be published in The Independent tomorrow
by cedars inhi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
cedars.
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I've emailed the Bbc world service. Keep the comments on the Independent website coming, links to other papers might help. They'll probably look tomorrow..
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Email to BBC
by The Quiet One ini am about to send an email to bbc world service to attempt to get more coverage of the discrimination employed by the watchtower, as seen in the 'mentally diseased article'.
following is a draft of the email i was thinking of using.
any suggestions welcome.
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Okay, I've sent it. I'll let you all know when they reply.
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Email to BBC
by The Quiet One ini am about to send an email to bbc world service to attempt to get more coverage of the discrimination employed by the watchtower, as seen in the 'mentally diseased article'.
following is a draft of the email i was thinking of using.
any suggestions welcome.
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Thanks wobble! Any suggestions for improvement/changing the question?
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Email to BBC
by The Quiet One ini am about to send an email to bbc world service to attempt to get more coverage of the discrimination employed by the watchtower, as seen in the 'mentally diseased article'.
following is a draft of the email i was thinking of using.
any suggestions welcome.
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The Quiet One
I would like to suggest a debate on religious discrimination against former members, such as the example given in a recent article in the July 15th Watchtower magazine, published by the Watchtower Society. The question the debate could begin with (I'm open to suggestions if it needs to be reworded) --' Should a religion be allowed to discriminate against former members by forcing its members to shun anyone who now disagrees with their doctrine, or else be ostracized themselves?' Here is an example of public interest in how former Jehovahs Witnesses who no longer believe every doctrine that their leaders dictate are to be treated. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/war-of-words-breaks-out-among-jehovahs-witnesses-2361448.html#mainColumn The subject of religious discrimination against former members, and of a persons right to change their beliefs without fear of losing their family and friends should be of interest to people who believe in religious freedom worldwide. In England and America at the very least, this article in the Independent is gaining interest on this topic. And seeing as the Watchtower magazine is read by millions of people the world over, both online and in print, this article (which says that members who stop believing what they teach are 'mentally diseased') would be an excellent current example to start off the debate. A Jehovahs Witness, possibly a representative of the Watchtower Society, and at least one former JW who has been shunned for changing beliefs might make for a balanced view of Jehovahs Witness policy, along with possibly members of other religious denominations who are for/against shunning. Even if you don't decide to use this idea, I'd greatly appreciate it if you could forward it/suggest who to forward it to that may be interested. And I ask that my e-mail/ ip address remain confidential, as I am a Jehovahs Witness myself and I fear reprisals would follow if I did not remain anonymous. Thank you for reading this.
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Email to BBC
by The Quiet One ini am about to send an email to bbc world service to attempt to get more coverage of the discrimination employed by the watchtower, as seen in the 'mentally diseased article'.
following is a draft of the email i was thinking of using.
any suggestions welcome.
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I am about to send an email to Bbc World Service to attempt to get more coverage of the discrimination employed by the Watchtower, as seen in the 'mentally diseased article'. Following is a draft of the email I was thinking of using. Any suggestions welcome. To see what is needed, or if you want to take part and contact them as well, here's the link: http://worldhaveyoursay.wordpress.com/suggest-a-debate/
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"Mentally diseased" article to be published in The Independent tomorrow
by cedars inhi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
cedars.
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Talesin: Thanks. I'm sorry, I have issues about being ignored, it's my problem not yours. I'll work on the email asap, but can anyone else contact the World Service? Its fine if nobody wants to, but if anyone does, the more the merrier! Wobble: Brilliant idea.
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"Mentally diseased" article to be published in The Independent tomorrow
by cedars inhi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
cedars.
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Great work, everyone. Does anyone agree that contacting the World Service to ask them to have a debate using this article would be a good idea? I don't mind being told that I'm barking up the wrong tree, it's better than having my earlier suggestion totally ignored..